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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree...I feel like America is one big, huge trainwreck..for now..


&quot;What I do care about, however, is that a people want to impose their religious beliefs on every one else.

Itâ€™s time for us to wake up to what is happening - all over the world. Itâ€™s time for all countries to say â€œif you want to live in our country you will live under our rules and our laws - we will not bend our laws to suit youâ€.

I&#039;m confused. You don&#039;t mean religious laws?
Or do you mean go where you fit in?
Do you mean laws like language, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230;I feel like America is one big, huge trainwreck..for now..</p>
<p>&#8220;What I do care about, however, is that a people want to impose their religious beliefs on every one else.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s time for us to wake up to what is happening &#8211; all over the world. Itâ€™s time for all countries to say â€œif you want to live in our country you will live under our rules and our laws &#8211; we will not bend our laws to suit youâ€.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused. You don&#8217;t mean religious laws?<br />
Or do you mean go where you fit in?<br />
Do you mean laws like language, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Rena Isaacson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rena Isaacson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear John - Glad you are back.  I always look forward to your blogs.

This year, for the first time, I feel a real existential threat to the &quot;Western&quot; - open - free - secular - way of life we are used to.  I just came back from London and - also for the first time - saw as many Muslims in the streets and in my hotel as non-Muslims.........many women wearing burkas.  That is their right if they choose to do so.  

Actually - I don&#039;t really care what one&#039;s religious affiliations are - I don&#039;t care whether people are white or black - I don&#039;t care what their sexual proclivities are.  What I do care about, however, is that a people wants to impose their religious beliefs on every one else.

It&#039;s time for us to wake up to what is happening - all over the world.  It&#039;s time for all countries to say &quot;if you want to live in our country you will live under our rules and our laws - we will not bend our laws to suit you&quot;.

Otherwise - we will be back to the dark ages - we will be back to religious oppression and persecution - we will, once again, have people burned at the stake - is that too extreme a scenario?  I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear John &#8211; Glad you are back.  I always look forward to your blogs.</p>
<p>This year, for the first time, I feel a real existential threat to the &#8220;Western&#8221; &#8211; open &#8211; free &#8211; secular &#8211; way of life we are used to.  I just came back from London and &#8211; also for the first time &#8211; saw as many Muslims in the streets and in my hotel as non-Muslims&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;many women wearing burkas.  That is their right if they choose to do so.  </p>
<p>Actually &#8211; I don&#8217;t really care what one&#8217;s religious affiliations are &#8211; I don&#8217;t care whether people are white or black &#8211; I don&#8217;t care what their sexual proclivities are.  What I do care about, however, is that a people wants to impose their religious beliefs on every one else.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for us to wake up to what is happening &#8211; all over the world.  It&#8217;s time for all countries to say &#8220;if you want to live in our country you will live under our rules and our laws &#8211; we will not bend our laws to suit you&#8221;.</p>
<p>Otherwise &#8211; we will be back to the dark ages &#8211; we will be back to religious oppression and persecution &#8211; we will, once again, have people burned at the stake &#8211; is that too extreme a scenario?  I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Magda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John,

Great you finally used the bit of news I sent you. And you weren&#039;t even afraid of refering to your pagan connections *laugh*

However als for Europe united under the roof of European Union I wanted to add something: 
Even though the UK were a founding member of the EU I doubt they ever actually felt like a part of it. They haven&#039;t signed half of EU&#039;s treaties (actually I bet the Swiss has signed more of them then the UK!) neither have they ever stepped back from any of their interrests for the benefit of the EU. And of course they are getting so many bonuses within the EU finance systeme that you could get a whole country bankrupt from the money UK is not paying into the finance support systeme.
Since Europe has been split up into &quot;Old Europe&quot; and &quot;New Europe&quot; by the US&#039; brother-or-enemy-politic it became even worse. As long as the UK 1.) are kicked out of EU or 2.) really change the way they act within the EU there won&#039;t be such a thing as real European unity. 

So don&#039;t take measures the UK takes to position itself away from the rest of the EU (mostly &quot;New Europe&quot;) too serious. They&#039;ve been doing just that ever since and everybody seriousely interested in European politics knows very well about it too.

As for your resumee: You&#039;re absolutely right! We (which is not only true for Europe) withdrew the old values from our societie(s) and missed to fill the &quot;Big Vacuum&quot; with new values. Attempts were made anyhow with more or less success varying in different areas of Europe but the UK with their erstwhile very stric set of rules and their huge group of (2nd and 3rd generation-)immigrants plus vast problems within their society may be in the biggest troubles of all Europe. Anyhow as they offer a glimpse into a bete noir-future they may be capable of stopping evolutions going the same direction in other member states of the EU. 
So what I want to tell you is this: Just because UK&#039;s halfway doomed it doesn&#039;t necesarily mean that the rest of the EU is just as near to chaos as the UK. In the end the UK is the least European of all the member states.

Looking forward to your next post

Magda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Great you finally used the bit of news I sent you. And you weren&#8217;t even afraid of refering to your pagan connections *laugh*</p>
<p>However als for Europe united under the roof of European Union I wanted to add something:<br />
Even though the UK were a founding member of the EU I doubt they ever actually felt like a part of it. They haven&#8217;t signed half of EU&#8217;s treaties (actually I bet the Swiss has signed more of them then the UK!) neither have they ever stepped back from any of their interrests for the benefit of the EU. And of course they are getting so many bonuses within the EU finance systeme that you could get a whole country bankrupt from the money UK is not paying into the finance support systeme.<br />
Since Europe has been split up into &#8220;Old Europe&#8221; and &#8220;New Europe&#8221; by the US&#8217; brother-or-enemy-politic it became even worse. As long as the UK 1.) are kicked out of EU or 2.) really change the way they act within the EU there won&#8217;t be such a thing as real European unity. </p>
<p>So don&#8217;t take measures the UK takes to position itself away from the rest of the EU (mostly &#8220;New Europe&#8221;) too serious. They&#8217;ve been doing just that ever since and everybody seriousely interested in European politics knows very well about it too.</p>
<p>As for your resumee: You&#8217;re absolutely right! We (which is not only true for Europe) withdrew the old values from our societie(s) and missed to fill the &#8220;Big Vacuum&#8221; with new values. Attempts were made anyhow with more or less success varying in different areas of Europe but the UK with their erstwhile very stric set of rules and their huge group of (2nd and 3rd generation-)immigrants plus vast problems within their society may be in the biggest troubles of all Europe. Anyhow as they offer a glimpse into a bete noir-future they may be capable of stopping evolutions going the same direction in other member states of the EU.<br />
So what I want to tell you is this: Just because UK&#8217;s halfway doomed it doesn&#8217;t necesarily mean that the rest of the EU is just as near to chaos as the UK. In the end the UK is the least European of all the member states.</p>
<p>Looking forward to your next post</p>
<p>Magda</p>
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