It’s Déjà Vu All Over Again

I try not to mix too much of my personal faith into these articles. Or, maybe I should say that I try to keep it to a level that (I hope) is acceptable to everyone. Please feel free to take me to task when I have been less-than-professional in this regard.

I say that because I’m about to quote something from a book in Ketuvim, which is the ‘hk’ in the acronym Tanahk. It’s in the book of Shophtim (שֹּׁפְטִים - Judges). There’s this exchange of letters between Yiphtach (Jephthah) and the king of Ammon (present day Jordan).

In one of his letters to Yiphtach, the king of Ammon explains why he is going to war with Israel:

Judges 11:13 And the king of the children of Ammon answered unto the messengers of Jephthah, Because Israel took away my land, when they came up out of Egypt, from Arnon even unto Jabbok, and unto Jordan: now therefore restore those lands again peaceably.

Yiphtach responds by saying, that the king of Ammon must be smoking something because Israel never took ANYTHING from Ammon when they came out of Egypt. Here’s what Moshe said in the book D’varim (Deuteronomy), when he was giving his final speech to Israel before going off to die:

Deut 2:37 Only unto the land of the children of Ammon thou camest not, nor unto any place of the river Jabbok, nor unto the cities in the mountains, nor unto whatsoever the LORD our God forbad us.

Does any of this sound familiar to you?

It does?

But, just in case someone missed a bit of the obvious, let me point it out. Ammon had zero claim to anything to the west of the Jordan River. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Yet, that didn’t keep them from claiming that Israel had taken the land away from them.

Almost three thousand years ago, they were doing the same thing that they are doing today. They pointed the finger and said that Israel took their land.

Whatever you may say about the account of the taking of the land of Israel, by Israel, it is clear that people of Ammon had no claim whatsoever to anything that Israel had – but that didn’t keep them from demanding their rights to what they didn’t own.

A three thousand year old newspaper headline, and it’s déjà vu all over again.  

14 thoughts on “It’s Déjà Vu All Over Again

  1. Yeah, probably shisha, whatever that is. I don’t know what they put in those glass pipes, but it must be pretty strong

  2. Whenever John writes like that I envision him on a Harley. I thought we were going to talk about Mr. Prime Minister and the charges being brought against him AGAIN.

    -sigh

    John, do you have a bike because I have a helmet that is collecting dust.

    Does anyone on here have a bike and live in Tejas because when I get my car back….will travel

    -yawn

    It’s great weather for this type of fun.

    Ok, so about this whole rebuilding of the temple thang you insist on talking about. Have you ever thought that the temple is already built and just waiting for all of the events to come together. It’s a huge mystery you know and we could speculate about it until the end. Oh but then we will know. Imagine that!

  3. Whoops my bad got your blog confused with an ongoing conversation I’ve been having.

    Sorry about that guys.

    There will be no division of land. No Way! I’ve been watching video from the wonderful land of Israel and the people would revolt.

    I wonder if it could be manipulated somehow though. There is so much manipulation going on these days.

    I honestly do not think the saying if you love something set it free applies here.

  4. Hi!
    It was really fun:)
    Job was fun, nephew had a birthday #4..we went to McDonalds…I’m mad at my sister, so I gave him a glowing space gel ant farm:):)
    He’s my little angel:)
    How about you, you guys?
    I would re-read your posts, SP, but they are just too abstract..or something i usually don’t get-Thanks SurfDog for the validation.
    I think it’s cool when Mr. Little talks right down to earth in a language that everybody here can easily understand..

  5. Ok, so I just killed a roach. I’m a roach murderer :(

    but I was my daughters knight in shining armor.

    Smashed that sucker in a Kleenex.

    I wonder why they don’t show that use of a Kleenex in the advertisment.

    They make great bug killers too

    Yes, i’m bored.

    Hey John, how’s your Sunday evening study going?

    Are folks in awe of your vast wisdom on the subject? Are they learning new things or just getting a refresher course?

    I gleen a lot from Pastor WH’s teaching. He is that good and so is his son in law and another women here at our church. Amazing men and women God has gifted. Amazing!!! Actually we have lots of men and women with the gift of teaching. You can really see the helper knit things together too. I wonder how many folks catch that.

  6. In what way is my writing abstract? Maybe it’s my word usage. Oh, I think there is a lot of abstract writing going on here on this blog. Messages being conveyed and the like….it’s called reading between the lines.

    Gotta run for the moment.

    B back in a few

  7. “Does anyone on here have a bike and live in Tejas because when I get my car back….will travel”

    I’ve been out of town working, I wished I had seen Sassy’s request earlier. I don’t ride much any more but for four years I raced in the IDBA (International Drag Bike Association), 1300 cc monsters with over 200 hp. If you don’t mind really really holding on, typically we reached 100mph in about 4 seconds, then come on! I still have one of the bikes (the fastest one!) and I live in Tejas! My wife won’t ride, she says someone has to file the insurance papers afterwards! LOL

  8. I think the fastest i’ve gone on the back of a bike is 90.

    Cant remember if the ninja went faster. hmmmm

    Oh well

    My kids don’t want me to ride for fear i’ll die.

    Had a good friend die on his bike.

    That has everything to do with their fear.

    I love it to much to just up and give it up.

    John, I can’t find it anywhere written in The Word that we are to be professional about our faith. I believe i’ll have to take you to task on that one.

    We are not just suppose to be hearers but doers…..doing is a verb. It shows action.

    I suppose When Christ was at the well chit chatting with that women he could have just gotten a drink and walked away, but He shared truth with her. Truth even about herself. I bet she was shocked to find out He knew about all of the notches in her water jar.

    The Helper clearly is here to prompt and I do think there are more opportunities than not to share our faith even in small doses.

    It is written “I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.”

    and you don’t think someone of another religion wouldn’t stand in the parking lot of your church and state that Jesus didn’t exist? It happened to a Pastor at our church after a meeting we had regarding the aid of Katrina victims.

    You would stand there and not say one thing?

    Over and over Jesus was rejected but at least they heard. It was THEIR choice not to believe that caused him to shake the dust and move on.

    I’m not about offending people, but our call is to share the truth and the truth offends some people.

    Plain and simple

  9. SassyPants: You said that you’re not afraid of the Gospel of Christ..do you live in Israel? If I may ask, are you Jewish? (Ethnically) I am Jewish, and I am not a follower of Christ, but my wife is. We are making aliyah soon and she is interested in messianic congregations there. You can find her blog at http://womenofvalor31.blogspot.com

    Just curious guys. I have a great debate going with a wonderful Christian friend who lives in KC, Missouri. His blog is:
    http://frankfamilyfacts.blogspot.com/ (Look under “My Friend Daniel”)

    Anyway, I like your blog and we will be back soon!

  10. Hi Daniel,

    No, I wrote that it is written, “I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.”

    Here is the verse found in Romans 1:16 in its entirety

    For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first than also to the Greek.

    :)

    No, I do not live in Israel and as far as I know I am not Jewish, however I do have a longing to visit Israel and maybe possibly in the distant future I will live there. Only time will tell. I am still in the research process regarding all of this and I have a lot to learn. I am a feel the soil kind of girl and won’t really know what it’s like in Israel until my toes dig in. From what i’ve read about alyia you and your wife are taking a huge leap of faith. Do you have family over there already? I would love to read about your journey…

    Our lil blog is a pretty neat place if I do say so myself. John deserves a standing ovation!!! I’ve been here since the beginning. I kinda like that thought.

    I hope we can converse again Daniel. In the meantime I will visit your wifes blog and that of your friend.

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